had an intensive consultations with leaders in the region, leaders of turkey, egypt, israel, yemen, libya and afghanistan. >> that's not enough. i think david is right here. look, the reality is personal chemistry is very important. also remember most of these leaders, you are speaking through an interpreter. as you well know, when you're doing it on the phone, you have an interpreter there, you're doubly or even triply removed from the person. when you meet them in the flesh, even though there are interpreters, it's a much more human interaction and look, he's never met the president of egypt. this is a guy we really need to understand, whether he can bring egypt to a democratic place and a pro-western place while retaining his islamist background. there are issues with turkey, they've got many important issues to deal with. i don't quite understand why this happed, you know. possibly there's some explanation. one part of it may be that this president is very smart, he's very cerebral. he tends not to place a lot of weight on what david was talking about, the person-to-person meetings, t